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Love is not exclusively separate from Survival

My time in MK Ultra, I was well acquainted with Eugenicists' nonsensical beliefs.
They didn't have a list like the 10 commandments, but at "the top" of, or at the core of their beliefs, is the idea that "Self Preservation" is the highest law of nature.

I wish to share with you the evidence has long existed, via Harlow's Monkey Experiments. there being soo many various experiments it is unlikely the full extent has or will ever be released to the public. Such as The Pit of Despair, which is said to be used for testing Anti-Depression medication. I personally experienced my own version of such experiments, except of course I am 'human' & was a child at the time.. & I know first hand that such "experiments" are not benevolent.

What the Cloth Mother Wire Mother portion of the experiments consistently demonstrated, is that the isolated (baby) monkey will cling to the cloth mother almost whenever it has the opportunity to do so. It will venture to the Wire Mother (the one with food) only enough to barely sustain itself but since the wire mother is designed to not be pleasant for the baby monkey to touch, the baby will try to be with the cloth mother. There are various forms of these tests. groups where the baby had no cloth mother, had more socialization with other real monkeys, or less socialization. & they even tracked how isolated which groups were, lots of details.

You all can and should examine whatever data you can if you are curious about the subject or the legitimacy of the claims that "Self-Preservation" "is the highest law", as it conveniently excludes crucial details that scientific studies have already confirmed that love is a factor of survival. like food, shelter, & safety, "love" is a like an emotional food, shelter, and safety that all living beings deserve, & many institutions not only de-value it, but act as if they are in denial of the existence of love, or worse as if it is something to be controlled.

Comments, Constructive Critiques, or Difference in Perspective Welcome.

*Edit* Also, when shown a fear stimuli, some of the baby monkeys would charge at "the monster" trying to scare it away from the cloth mother (this apparently happened when the cloth mother was present during the fear stimuli portion of the tests disclosed to the public, via Harlow Monkey Exp. However "my cloth mother" (a hologram) I do not recall being around to encourage or strengthen me during moments I was under duress, the moments of fear. At least not until, in some abstractness I feel this relates a bit, when the machine would act as a guide in my head/brain & that took place much deeper into the programming when I was accepting & trusting the machines in my head to help me complete the (MK Ultra) missions. hive mind drone stuff, sorta. I guess I just wanted to mention though that, with a little bit of love, even if maybe it is synthetic, sometimes it is enough to push us to confront our fears. Monkeys (& human children..) in labs are pushed to this brink, & if they can do it, I'm not sure what excuse everyone else has to not stand up to "the monsters" too.

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